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Thoughts on Wraith (novel spoilers)

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There's something that's been on my mind since I first read about the agent known as 'Wraith' in the Manga and novels (yet, sadly, not seen or mentioned in the anime) and excuse me if my words/thoughts here seem rambling or confused.

What exactly could be Wraith's orders be as far as Kaname goes?


We know for certain that Wraith is Kaname's 'real' guard and that Sousuke is just a 'decoy', yet seeing as Wraith NEVER interferes in anything, even when Kaname's life is in danger and Sousuke's not around to protect her, I wonder what exactly is he allowed to do in order to 'protect' her? Or could his orders be slightly different than what we all assume, in that instead of protecting Kaname, he's supposed to protect the knowledge she holds?

Could he have orders to kill Kaname in the event Sousuke can't save/rescue her? To prevent Amalgram from using her knowledge in any way? We know from his and Sousuke's phone chat in ODBD that Wraith's armed with a sniper rifle (unless he was lying to Sousuke, but then what for?). Could he have the okay to use it on Kaname if the need arose?


I mean, maybe it's the writer in me focusing on the 'unknown' aspects of a character and thinking up speculation and future plot twists to amuse myself with, but I've been wracking my brain trying to come up with Wraith's motivation and apparent lack of concern in the past on whether or not Kaname gets hurt or even possibly killed.

Seeing as I've only seen the anime and read ODBD and DVMC, maybe I missed something in the manga or an earlier novel that explained Wraith in more detail? But it seems to me that if Wraith knows Sousuke's away on a mission and Kaname's being chased by an assassin and yet does nothing to help, there's got to be something else going on. Also, in ODBD, it's mentioned that Sousuke's complained in reports about Wraith's non-interference during some events, and every time his concerns were brushed aside by Tessa and Kalinin. What's going on? Why the secrecy and, on Wraith's end, twisted truths and lies?


SPOILERS FOR 'COMO'


And then why would he allow Kaname to give herself over to Leonard in exchange for Sousuke's life? Wraith... isn't secretly aligned with Amalgam, is he? o.O

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I have my doubts that it's okay for him to let Kaname die. He went out to help her when that assassin showed up and when he nearly screwed up, she was about to report him and now he's her whipping dog to keep her quiet about it. So I do think he's supposed to protect her. But I think it might be that he's supposed to wait until Sousuke can't do anything more about it. And of course, there were times when it was completely out of his hands. Like when Leonard takes her. Without an AS, there isn't much he could do to stop him.

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Re: Thoughts on Wraith (novel spoilers)

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SPOILERS FOR 'COMO'


And then why would he allow Kaname to give herself over to Leonard in exchange for Sousuke's life? Wraith... isn't secretly aligned with Amalgam, is he? o.O
Well, since this is a definite spoiler thread and question...

At that point in time, Wraith is tending to Kyouko's injuries, and pretty much decides after that that Mithril is toast and none of this stuff is worth it...so I would conjecture that even though Wraith may have had alterior motives in the first place, I think that Wraith also has a bit of a "what's in it for me?" mentality, and when it's not looking in their favor, they shirk their duty.
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Heh. Remember in ODbD when he decided to stay out of it because it "had nothing to do with him"? And went on flirting with that other guy. :lol:

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Weltall Elite wrote:Heh. Remember in ODbD when he decided to stay out of it because it "had nothing to do with him"? And went on flirting with that other guy. :lol:
I think that was in DVMC - Wraith flirting with Takenaka, who is either the Officer of the Deck for the Pasadena, or the XO (as Sailor told Tessa he's the Vice Chief, and the literal translation of Vice Chief is Fuku-Kanchou... which would be the XO.)

*shrugs* Who the heck knows? As for Wraith's gender, its up in the air. I'm guessing guy tho. Anime likes have crossdressing guys.

P.S. During the American civil war, a US Army Private named Frank Thompson ended up becoming a spy for the Union, doing long-range recon (ala Sayeret Matkal), and was very good at crossdressing as a woman.

After the war, it was learned that Thompson was so good at masquerading as a woman, because Thompson was really a Canadian girl by the name of Sarah Emma Edwards.
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Wild Goose wrote:
I think that was in DVMC - Wraith flirting with Takenaka, who is either the Officer of the Deck for the Pasadena, or the XO (as Sailor told Tessa he's the Vice Chief, and the literal translation of Vice Chief is Fuku-Kanchou... which would be the XO.)
Yeah, I was just too lazy to go look up his name.

*shrugs* Who the heck knows? As for Wraith's gender, its up in the air. I'm guessing guy tho. Anime likes have crossdressing guys.

P.S. During the American civil war, a US Army Private named Frank Thompson ended up becoming a spy for the Union, doing long-range recon (ala Sayeret Matkal), and was very good at crossdressing as a woman.

After the war, it was learned that Thompson was so good at masquerading as a woman, because Thompson was really a Canadian girl by the name of Sarah Emma Edwards.
So it's a woman, pretending to be a man, who is pretending to be a woman?

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*shrugs* Who the heck knows? As for Wraith's gender, its up in the air. I'm guessing guy tho.
i'm thinking the other tho... since I saw some pictures from COMO which then began to pop up in some Jpn fansites...
of course, it's my stupid theory. Waiting for when the translation comes so the question can be finally settled. :-P

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I'm thinking a man...otherwise, she's being a real bitch towards Sousuke...I unno...for some reason, I have an easier time accepting a man pointing his sniper rifle on Sousukes head in order to create a spectacle with Kaname...if it was a woman, then...

Maybe I'm just being sexist here, lol. But I'm thinking man.
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Weltall: Who knows? But Wraith might be a girl... that might also be why Kaname hasn't bitch-slapped Wraith for seeing her almost-naked.

A woman might also be a better choice, considering that the times Wraith has shown up, Wraith likes cosplaying as female charecters (housewife in ODBD, flirting with Takenaka in DVMC...)

*shrugs*
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Wild Goose wrote:Weltall: Who knows? But Wraith might be a girl... that might also be why Kaname hasn't bitch-slapped Wraith for seeing her almost-naked.
Not that Kaname knows either.

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I personally think Wraith is a female. I mean, Wraith did kind of seduced Takenaka, and was right there in front of him. I think if Wraith was a male, he would then have "too much skill", and that would freak me out.

I think having a female would be more convenient since Kaname saw Wraith's face, and looked to be of age 20, or somewhere in that range. You have to remember about male hormones, the hair especially, unless Wraith as a male is also very careful about that. I think it would be awesome if Wraith was a female, having such a strong code of honor, pride, and conscientious. Though I have to admit about Wraith's questionable loyalty/moral as a Mithril agent. Wonder why Wraith gets mad when Kaname mentions Wraith as an actor? Since Wraith is so strong about wanting to be what he/she is right now, as an agent of the Intelligence Department, Wraith must have a life changing history, probably with terrorists and the like since most other characters also have, especially Kurz.

Wraith in my opinion, is a much better watcher of Kaname then Sousuke is, since Wraith follows Kaname almost everywhere everyday, and is aware, evidence of Sousuke revealing very sensitive intelligence on himself and Mithril. But yes, Wraith is a mystery, and we don't know the level of devotion and strength Wraith would go through to protect "Angel", so I think Sousuke beats Wraith in that.

Though many of Wraith's actions point to a more male figure, like when Wraith went into the store Kaname was in when she was going to buy a Bonta-kun plushie, Wraith got embarrassed by Kaname's password/phrase stuff. I think a female would be more easy going at that, but if it was a proud agent who had a lot of confidence in himself and his abilities, and one who normally abstains from such vulgar things, it would be perfectly suitable.
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Spoilers:

[ecs]Wraith is a female agent from North Korea. She is chased by the intelligence agency of her country for some reason.

As for Kaname, Wraith lost trake of her while taking Kyoko to the hospital. In other words, Wraith is not a betray; rather, she acted unprofessionally.[/ecs]
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I KNEW it! :lol:

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Q - can Wraith pilot an AS, or does she not have the ability? I am just curious.
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I doubt it, she's just a field agent that works on foot. Moving around in an AS would get in the way of her objectives of staying undercover so she probably never trained to pilot one.

If she does know how, then she's probably not so good cuz if she's good enough, they'd have her as a pilot in Operations instead of a spy in Inteligence.

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