FullMetal*Panic!

Started watching Naruto recently

Boring class + Pencil + A4 paper = Chubby Shinobi Sousuke

This one is really difficult.
Shinobi Sousuke

Started out well, then I screwed up with the inking n got his left eye all wrong. So, I scan the pic, blanked the eye out, print and redraw his eye. Again, I messed up with the scar. And when scanning, the pupils, the scanner just smears the pupils. Now, it's just one black blob!!! Argh!!!!


I just don't know how woman22980 does it. 300 pixels for scanner setting? This is 600 pixels!! And the eyes still smears!!!

Anyways, what do you think?

well as for how LS1 does thing remeber she could have a beter scaner or soft ware
but it looks good i cant figure out his foot wear but its good

terran empire wrote:but it looks good i cant figure out his foot wear but its good

Heheh. Think sandals...

My reference

About the scanner, I think I'll sue my school for lousy scanner...

Sgt. Sagara Sousuke wrote:I just don't know how woman22980 does it. 300 pixels for scanner setting? This is 600 pixels!! And the eyes still smears!!!

Anyways, what do you think?

I like!!! I think you're like WAY braver than me when it comes to clothes. You render his (in my opinion) really complex outfit very well. I really love Sousuke in his AS battle unform for instance, but I'm about a million miles away from actually trying to draw it....

So! how I scan.... umm..... *think* I have an HP scanjet, it supposedly does up to 2400dpi, but it can really only handle 1200 well. For the most part it's been a good scanner, I've never had to use even 1200 before. Perhaps we're getting terminology mixed? 300 dots per inch (dpi) is the resolution I scan the picture at, and if the picture is 10 inches tall then the scanned image will be 3000 pixels tall. This usually ends up being more than enough space for me to zoom in and edit away. All my original scan files end up being several megs in size. The raw file is maybe 4-6 megs, depending on the image, the edited files including layers can be up to 40.

Hmmm... *thinks of other things* Perhaps, if the eyes on your original drawing are looking sharper than they scan, then the color setting might need to be changed. It might be something to experiment with anyway. I usually scan everything in true color (16.7 million colors) then convert in photoshop to greyscale. I would scan in greyscale to begin with, but for some aggrivating reason the scanner scans in greyscale but sets the color mode in Photoshop to be "Indexed", so I have to select greyscale anyway. argh... (Indexed color mode is just bad for editing)

I guess my last thought on the subject would be, for something as finely detailed as an eye, a really fine point pen is what you have to have. I begin outlining my sketches in ink with a 0.005 mm Micron pen. Come to think of it, I actually finish with this as well... I have all the sizes they offer but I never use any of the others unless it's to draw frame border lines, building lines, that kind of thing. hmm... *will need to buy more 0.005mm pens soon*

dpi... yeah, me means pixels = dpi.

I think the photostating caused the lines to be thicker than it had originally been. That's why the lines are so dark.

I think you're like WAY braver than me when it comes to clothes.

Heheh... Nah. I've seen all your works, the way the crinkles and folds are really professional work. Then, there's the ermmm.. "lemon shark" material? Nice. I just didn't comment cause I was nosebleeding through the rest of the posts...

Anyways, the 0.005mm micro pen. Are you sure it's not 0.05mm? I have those. Seen 0.01mm before but 0.005mm...

Thanks for the help. I appreciate.

Sgt. Sagara Sousuke wrote:I think the photostating caused the lines to be thicker than it had originally been. That's why the lines are so dark.

Cool! I'm glad you figured out what was causing it then.

Sgt. Sagara Sousuke wrote:Heheh... Nah. I've seen all your works, the way the crinkles and folds are really professional work. Then, there's the ermmm.. "lemon shark" material? Nice. I just didn't comment cause I was nosebleeding through the rest of the posts...

*LOL!!* Thanks

Sgt. Sagara Sousuke wrote:Anyways, the 0.005mm micro pen. Are you sure it's not 0.05mm? I have those. Seen 0.01mm before but 0.005mm...

Hmm... *runs off to check pens...* Ok, got my trusty little pen here... It says for the name Micron 005, but I think you're right, it doesn't say it's 0.005 mm, just 005 next to the name. So I guess that's part of their numbering system? Weird. In little text around the pen it says 0.2mm line width. I'd never looked at them so closely to tell, but you're absolutely right! Sometimes it feels like even this pen is too thick a line. I have one of those refillable manga inking pens, and while it certainly does make a very fine line, I have to get the ink started flowing on it all the time! It's aggrivating, I pick up the pen for a few seconds and then have to scribble off page to get the ink flowing again... grrr....

a good pen is hard to find and worth its weight in gold

...may want to check your scanner software settings, and the manual
that came with your scanner. Face it, those seemingly superhigh dpi
numbers they put on the box NEVER tell you that they more often than
not use software interpolation to get that: a similar way is how you take
a small photograph and resize it larger in an image editing program.
It CAN get bigger, but quality goes off the deep end the bigger you try
to crank it, simply because you're trying to make more data out of less.

Also, the quality of your scans will depend on the mode you set the scan
to. At a minimum, there should be pure B&W (aka lineart), greyscale,
photo... and a few other modes I can't think of off the top of my head.
Sketches falls under a lineart mode, but I find it's REALLY bad for preserving fine and subtle details, like different line weights and thicknesses.
Photo will preserve more, but shoots the files size WAAAAAY up! Play
around with different scan modes and see if you get a better quality
scan that way

...just some random 0.02










Regards

Yeah, thanks.
I scanned it with pure B&W, so I don't have to change to greyscale with photoshop. But the higher dpi I set, the image just gets bigger but with no signs of any improvement in the image details...

Sgt. Sagara Sousuke wrote:But the higher dpi I set, the image just gets bigger but with no signs of any improvement in the image details...

Higher dpi doesn't automatically translate to higher quality; it just means its
preserving more detail: ie. 1600dpi is double the detail level of 800dpi,
but this is pretty subjective. Try greyscale or even photo mode and see if you
get a better scan that way.








Regards