Tsudou Make My Day (TMMD) New Novel/Dragon Mag *Spoilers*

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I translated the Chinese translation from Pyrite's link using this website:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/
Yea, I know anyone can do this but if you want to read some real quotes and all that stuff from the novel...have fun! haha see if it makes sense. I tried reading some of it but it gets sort of confusing.




Then I told you to be good. Looks at my eye." "You must do assorted □□" "look." His face approached has filled the entire field of vision. The straight facial expression as a result of is constraining the fervor is shivering. Slightly wants the instinct somewhere is telling her "not to need to look". But, she finally or looked. The pessimistic pupil most deep place, the light is unable any thing which catches, flowed in her heart. Ponder flowing rapidly. Is that "resonates". "... ... ... ... ! " Has like is been struck by lightning is ordinary, slightly wants 后背 equally instead very gets up like the bow. (Flower arrangement: Stemming from the medical student's instinct, I almost inscribed "角弓反张"... ...) That certainly is not until now has experienced that kind of vast thing, but is more intense, is crueler, moreover ice-colder dreary picture. Slightly wants the body to be in the fire. Flaming burning corridor. The black smoke tucks the eddy current, stimulates the smelly direct impact nostril. The flame color is pessimistic. The young girl is sobbing. The off and on sound of gunfire is thundering, any person's angry roar with calls out in grief the sound to shake in the ear. (Leads two children to basement to go!) The man is roaring. (Useless. Can discover immediately.) The woman is panic-stricken, is sobbing. (Outstanding Switzerland they soon rescued us. Can again support ten minute speech... ... . Goes, Maria. I on am blocking the enemy in the southern region.) (And so on, Cull. Keeps my side.) (Is not good. Quickly walks.) (Ask you.) However, the man or walked. The woman is hugging two children, with nearly does not have the sound which detests, like this said: (Always like this. Therefore I only then... ...) The scene which urges the person to feel sick instantaneous flashes before. On bed 扭缠 in same place, obsequious attitude full of person and person. That lets the person want to block the ear, ugly sound. That man for completely voluntarily but in remote sea time, woman always in to one's heart's content 淫欲. In front of the person is the pure and chaste virtuous wife, 背地 in actually continuously calmly is making this kind of matter. Young he has already known this matter. That pair of eye continuously all is looking. The sound of gunfire is approaching. The woman has been afraid, is choked by the smoke is coughing, leads the children to run to the basement. Has gotten down the stair, runs piles up Cheng Shan to that the lumber and the gardening thing deep place. In the staircase sends out the gunshot. Any person drops down sound. Did not know the men have gotten down the staircase. The crude sound of footsteps approaches to here. (Lays aside.) The woman □□mother said to the children. Is sobbing the girl advances in the mountain which the wooden crate piles becomes, from above borderland tattered wool blanket. Sound of footsteps nearly in at present. The time which which has not been left over another child □□boy lays aside. Mother and boy four item docking. That woman's ugly expression, was small must the probably life be also unable to forget. Anxious. Walks back and forth. Also has some kind to detest. This child has already known my betrayal. He continuously all is blaming me. Continuously all thought I am a prostitute. Continuously is using him that outstandingly enough to let person some fears the brains, in despite me. (Mother... ... ?) The boy said, but the mother had not actually replied. Although is a beautiful woman, but that wrinkles the brow, the eye that vice- expression which transfers from own son body, actually extremely real and is lifelike. Certainly not that the extreme twists. Was inferior to said just opposite. Only is, wrenches or twist open the eye. However because of this, her will is decisive, that will, completely confused some kind of destiny. The men came. In the hand is taking the pitch-black shining automatic rifle. (Another person in?) The man said. (In relative's family. Ask you, lets off me □□) the mother to hold son's double shoulder, pushes him to theirs front. Simply on the picture the wallet which pulls out from the bosom, gives the robber to be same That kind despairs with the nihility feeling. Sincerely all flow in the chest, has harassed the heart which slightly wants. After that matter, how already all didn't matter.

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Hmm...yeah...uh huh.

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Haven't read the magazines these past two months (man, I so look forward to vacation time, free time, any time at all)- but I am looking forward also to seeing Sousuke and Kaname meet again- so Leonard had it tough. Wah- his past is still nowhere near as tragic as Sousuke's, and you don't see Sousuke all like "pity me" or any of that crap. Kaname can't go for the crybaby.
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you know, to be fair, sousuke isn't much different from leonard, he also become what people made him into as an orphan child: a mercenary soldier, just like leonard, terrorists made him into a terrorist... so the only difference between the two is that sousuke is luckier

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You missed the fact that Leonard was betrayed by his own mother which didn't happen to Sousuke. So luck isn't all there is. Also if that was the case, Sousuke wouldn't be getting along so well with Kalanin, who was his Enemy earlier on. There is also the nature/nurture thing. Not everything that makes a person become themselves is learned. So I wouldn't say there isn't that much difference between Leonard and Sousuke, I'd say there is a significant difference.

Just look at the difference between Sousuke and his senior in the desert arc of the first season. They both were brought up in the same group, but there was a drastic difference between the tow of them.
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Sousuke doesn't even really remember his parents (other than a glimpse of his mother freezing to death)- I'm just saying that Leonard's all like "all of the bad stuff I've done is excusable because something bad happened when I was young" and Sousuke doesn't even think himself worthy of Kaname because of the bad stuff he's done. Although nothing is really going to make think Leonard less girly and wimpy- Sousuke would sooooooooo take him out hand-to-hand...hell, Kyoko probably could, too.
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Thats the difference between the two. Sousuke feels regret for what he did, not so for Leonard. Thats also the difference between a normal person and one that is a sociopath, although I don't think Leonard is emotionless as a sociopath is, I just think Leonard has the Wrath of Kahn syndrome. (i.e. I must exact revenge... he must get back at Tesa for Motehr's betrayal. yadda yadda yadda)
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KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!

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Well, as long as there is ass-kicking on Sousuke's part and beat-down taking on Leonard's part eventually, that's all that matters in the end :)

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sousuke was also pretty cold blooded and felt no regret until he met kaname and kaname was nice and sympathetic of him... leonard hasn't had such warmth blessed on him yet :p

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ricerocket wrote:sousuke was also pretty cold blooded and felt no regret until he met kaname and kaname was nice and sympathetic of him... leonard hasn't had such warmth blessed on him yet :p
Thats what Gauron liked from person who Sousuke was, Kashim. In end of TSR he discripes Kashim as "Saint of War" whos eyes show no regret, no remercy, no sorrow, no happiness, no love, no hate. Eyes that reveal no human emotions.
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Don't Babelfish, it's bad for your sanity. :-P

And it was mentioned in the chapter that Leonard said he didn't expect to be pitied (*shrug*), and that it wasn't an excuse for his behaviour (and Kaname points that out too) but that he just wanted to let her know how it felt. I'll try to translate what actually went on from the Chinese - hope 小道 doesn't mind. (Just bear in mind that it's a translation of a translation, and is definitely inaccurate.)
Several seconds - no, several minutes passed. By the time Kaname had regained her senses, Leonard had left her, and was sitting on a chair in a corner of the room.

"Ooooh..."

She propped herself up on the king-sized bed, still breathing heavily. Kaname realised that her back was drenched in sweat.

"Not even my sister knows about this," Leonard said haltingly.

"So..." she shouted hoarsely, "So what?"

Sad pasts, painful experiences, doesn't everybody have to bear them? Sousuke did. So did I. This was tragic, certainly, but it couldn't account for turning out this way, playing around with people's lives in the palm of your hand, and even smiling while you do it.

With a look that said he'd expected Kaname to think that way, Leonard sighed.

"If I'd tried to tell this to normal humans using words, the response would have been about the same. But you're different. That's why I conveyed it this way. Now it's not somebody else's affair anymore."

(Cut some bits in between, basically the whole "people are filth" part)

"I didn't tell you this because I wanted sympathy either," Leonard said quietly, "and I didn't want to use old wounds (scars?) to rationalise my actions. My thoughts and actions are of my own will. The bad ties (?) with my mother have nothing to do with them."

"Then why..."

"Like you said, to open up. That's all there is to it." (This is a reference to what happened before the flashback, when Kaname was needling him about taunting and harassing people and acting cool, but not opening up to others - and "didn't you get enough love from your parents when you were a kid"? He took up on the offer. :-P )
I'm actually kinda disappointed that Gatou's going for the "sympathetic villain" route, although I suppose there's this whole business about deeper characterisation. I miss having some really batshit insane people to beat on, although it looks like Kalinin might be our next candidate. :twisted:

Other interesting bits - this time from MMD6 and 5:

1.) Kalinin shot Hunter and left him to die when he wouldn't divulge the location of the ARX-8. :cry:

2.) How they got Roy Seals to bring the M6A3 over: Courtney promised that if he brought it over, Tessa would dress up in a (Florence) Nightingale nurse outfit and give him "special" treatment. Of course, she wasn't around at the time. :-P

3.) Heh, love this part: Leonard asks Kaname how she'd modify the AS designs if it was up to her, and hands her a Codarl model. She promptly adds two more bundles to the head-mounted heat emitters (the "hair"), ties it into a braid, and puts a bow on it before handing it back to Leonard. :lol:

4.) Mr. Gold has made an appearance in MMD6, although nothing is mentioned about him other than that Leonard knows his name and nationality. The two don't get along very well, mocking each other constantly, and Mr. Gold is currently pushing him for more Black Technology and to do something about Kaname. Oh, and that's where the Behemoths are mentioned: Mr. Gold is sending 3 "Plan-1502"s over to the safehouse - and Leonard comments that they were definitely very lively back at Merida Island.
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Villains aren't bad people ... just misunderstood...
man this needs to get licensed fast.....
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Taurec wrote:Villains aren't bad people ... just misunderstood...
May I quote that to my sig? Thats well said.
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I wouldn't care if Amalgam had come in and killed Leonard's puppy in front of him- he's the bad guy...I don't have to like or feel any sympathy for the bad guy. He wouldn't have shown Kagome what he did if he weren't trying provoke her sympathy...he says "so you can understand" or something to that effect. So what? Understand what? It's just a way of him trying to pull at her heart strings, no matter what he says to the contrary. I'm just saying that the difference between him and Sousuke is that Sousuke doesn't make excuses. He doesn't say "I did what I did b/c of this and this and this". Kaname does that for him- SHE'S the one who has rationalized what Sousuke's done, not Sousuke himself. She wouldn't do that for Leonard, and that's why Leonard's shows her what happened.

And if it got licensed, you still wouldn't read it for years because they would start translating at the beginning of the series.
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Taurec wrote:Villains aren't bad people ... just misunderstood...
Okay, attorney...

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1346287

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LOL, awesome!
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