FMP: Continuing On My Own Discussion *Spoilers*

Gunner · Post by **Gunner** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:45 pm

I agree. I want the cliche emotional kiss. We've been waiting long enough for chrissake. One hopes that kiss is still going to make an appearance one of these days.

And three Behemoths? Amalgam sure is hitting Mithril hard. I highly doubt Sousuke and Arbalest on hand could balance the tide of power at this point. However, it is nice to see Melissa, Clouzot and Kurz get some fighting in the spotlight.

And although we have seen brief moments of cold, hard commanding from Tessa, her real charismatic leadership shines brightly when faced with Mithril's imminent demise. I'm not a huge fan of her character, but after the last novel or so, Tessa has been brought into a whole new light.

The interaction between Kaname and Sousuke was the most surprising and intriguing however, and I still continue to ponder how Kaname's unexpected personality shift will turn out. Already you can hear her echoing the words of Leonard. That in itself is distressing, and makes one wonder how easy it might prove to be for Leonard, to completely ensnare her not only physically but mentally. What will the consquences be of Kaname living separate of Sousuke, and so very close to Leonard, day by day?

Every character we have come to know and love has been pushed past their limit, and a shift can be seen in all of their personalities. Kaname becomes more cold and distant. Sousuke begins to open up and reveal his feelings. And even Tessa has turned from an innocent and cheerful girl, to a hardened and ruthless leader.

This plot continues to darken. Let us see how dark it can go.

Awaiting the next chapter with great anticipation.

Weltall Elite · Post by **Weltall Elite** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:52 pm

full_metal_sousuke wrote:i skipped to the kaname sousuke part. he said he likes her dosnt that kinda count as him confessing his love.

I discussed the matter at great length with Brandi. It technically IS a confession of love. The word they use for "like" can also mean love if used by people who are generally more reserved about their feelings. Or at least that's the understanding I got from the discussion.

This chapter was really sad. I've never seen Kaname so cold. Is the Whispered side taking over? I can understand her snapping under the pressure, but the elitist attitude is something I never really expected. Looks like things are about to get interesting.

full_metal_sousuke · Post by **full_metal_sousuke** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:20 am

he should've just kissed her rite then and there. i know i would have

Weltall Elite · Post by **Weltall Elite** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:53 am

Should have... But I guess that would have been too easy for them. They're the really reserved type after all. Besides, then they wouldn't be able to angst about not taking the chance over the course of the next three novels.

ricerocket · Post by **ricerocket** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:24 am

Weltall Elite wrote:New novel chapter's been released. Like always, I skipped ahead and read the scene with Sousuke and Kaname. I'll have to go back and read the other part later.

Kaname is totally losing her mind. And we're seeing a side of her we've never seen before. And it's not a good side.

"If this were a cheap novel, this would probably be the emotional kiss scene..."
Personally, I would have liked that.

for a moment there i thought you meant new chapter after "Burning One Man Force" .....

Circle · Post by **Circle** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:07 am

Poor Kaname has become too cynical to kiss. Pessimistic Kaname? Optimistic Sousuke? WTF

I can easily see Tessa doing whatever she needs to do to save lifes, which in this case is to threaten execution on deserters. She gets an Oscar.

Gunner · Post by **Gunner** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:30 am

One has to wonder why Kaname is reacting in such a harsh and cold manner in her interactions with Sousuke. To me it seems a good deal of the reason for her behavior stems from wakening whispered powers since she began to tap into that knowledge during her discussion with Sousuke two seconds before she displayed her change in behvaior. ie- callous and superior.
Obviously she is under some major stress, but in the past, under a lot of stress, Kaname has never shown such behavior. Hence why this seems out of character, and thus, perhaps instigated by whispered powers.
Why then, have we not seen that mannerism in Tessa? Is she not more intuned to her own powers than Kaname? Why is it that Kaname is reacting in this way? Leonard did the same as well, yet his sister did not. Can it be selective to certain types of whispereds? Did Leonard perhaps have some influence...when he first met Kaname on the rooftop and kissed her? My mind is a little rusty, but I believe he said something like "this is a kiss, to wake you up" or something. Bah. I can't remember exactly. I could be reading way too much into this. Just trying to sort some musing out.
Who knows where my theories will lead me. Directly off target I suspect.

Ah well, I guess I'll wait and find out eventually.

sj4iy · Post by **sj4iy** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:36 am

I think it's pretty easy to understand why Kaname is acting like this when she has never acted like this before- this time, the world she lives in (Tokyo) and the people she cares about are all involved. Before, when she was in North Korea or on the Tuatha de Danaan during crises, it never affected those aspects of her life. But now, she knows there's no way to go back. Now she realizes that she's been selfish and that b/c she has been, her friends could die. Like it says in the novel, she is only 17 after all. You have to be a special person *cough* Sousuke *cough* to be able to stay composed after so many horrific things have happened. And now we see that Sousuke is affected by it, too. He's not just about saving her anymore, or running away. He wants the normal kind of life, too. He wants to continue on as he has been.

Well, now we get to the critical turning point in the story...and it isn't for the good.

Weltall Elite · Post by **Weltall Elite** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:52 am

sj4iy wrote:I think it's pretty easy to understand why Kaname is acting like this when she has never acted like this before- this time, the world she lives in (Tokyo) and the people she cares about are all involved. Before, when she was in North Korea or on the Tuatha de Danaan during crises, it never affected those aspects of her life. But now, she knows there's no way to go back. Now she realizes that she's been selfish and that b/c she has been, her friends could die. Like it says in the novel, she is only 17 after all. You have to be a special person *cough* Sousuke *cough* to be able to stay composed after so many horrific things have happened. And now we see that Sousuke is affected by it, too. He's not just about saving her anymore, or running away. He wants the normal kind of life, too. He wants to continue on as he has been.

Well, that accounts for tears, and confessions, and fear, and self-loathing. But I think he's talking more about the elitist intolerance and delusions of persecution. I suppose that COULD be caused by the things you mentioned, but I don't know. Seems like there's more to it. It's not like her. And it's hardly typical of a 17-year-old girl either.

Gunner · Post by **Gunner** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:30 am

Yeah, as Weltall mentioned, I was referring more to her "elitist" behavior, but I agree with where you're coming from too Sj4iy.
As you said, things are at a pivotal point and everything is changing...and worsening. Kaname's personality is a clear example.
One can only hope her character doesn't undergo such drastic change that we (or more importantly the characters who care about her), will not be able to recognise the old Kaname.

Weltall Elite · Post by **Weltall Elite** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:38 am

One can only hope her character doesn't undergo such drastic change that we (or more importantly the characters who care about her), will not be able to recognise the old Kaname.

Funny you should mention that. I remember writing a drabble a few months back about that very idea. Seems I hit the nail on the head so far.

...And I'm humble too.

Anyway, this chapter probably should have been upbuilding with Sousuke's confession, but it was really depressing. And it doesn't sound like things will get better for a LONG time.

full_metal_sousuke · Post by **full_metal_sousuke** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:30 am

read this. its a short summary on BOMF that just came out.
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread. ... 478&page=2

Circle · Post by **Circle** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:47 am

I love that FAQ

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The summary looks pretty long, I'll read it later. But this is the COMO thread so I'll put my comments about the summary on the "Parallel Universe" thread.

Pyrite · Post by **Pyrite** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:51 am

I thought that news was old, f_m_s, but it turns out that there's some interesting information there. I won't say more for spoilers' sake, but this information should go into the "another universe?" thread, which is for BOMF and beyond.

Regarding Kaname's personality switch, I thought it was pretty obvious: her distress was from the unfamiliar scenario around them, while her cold attitude was from her Whispered side taking over - the "stupid" comments were a dead giveaway. (Admittedly, though, this Whispered moment is quite unlike the ones from earlier on, where Kaname goes into a trance and is afterwards unaware of what she'd just said - it seems to be more of the later, less dramatic incidents that are only alluded to, such as in the case of her math and science scores. Anyway, the cliche of special abilities kicking in under severe stress wins again.)

ricerocket · Post by **ricerocket** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:57 am

errrrr ARX-8? wth?? the text i read does not have that part with wraith's conversation with the mysterious person, it ends after chidori wakes up in tears and then hands over some new report/analysis about a new type behemoth that she is supposedly helping amedem or whatever with

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