FullMetal*Panic!

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Well here it is, the Sukhoi PAK FA and damn does it look good.
It had it first flight a couple of days ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPHzCqSJ5xY

They used a design similar to the YF-23 for the tail fins and we all know the YF-23 was superior to the Raptor.

I bet this will kick the ass of a JSF...

I think it looks nice.

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/i ... n.html#new
The guys here (who actually know stuff about airplanes) seem to be having a pretty hardcore discussion about it.

LOL yeah I know... seems that every mil. nut .. (guilty a charged) has something to say about it.

So pretty fighters are still being designed and created.



Press release:

Sukhoi began flight tests of long-term aviation system frontline aircraft (PAK FA)

Today in Komsomolsk - on - Amur hosted the first flight of an experienced aviation complex of the fifth generation. The plane was piloted honored test pilot Sergei Bogdan Russia. Prototype PAK FA spent 47 minutes in the air and landed on the runway of the factory airfield.

The flight was successful, in full accordance with the flight plan. "During the flight we had a primary assessment of controllability of the aircraft, engine and major systems, the aircraft made a full-time cleaning and landing gear. The aircraft proved itself well in all phases of our intended flight program. They easily and comfortably manage ", - said Sergey Bogdan.

Compared with previous generations of fighters, PAK FA has several unique features, combining the functions of attack aircraft and fighter.

Fifth generation fighter aircraft equipped with a fundamentally new avionics, the integrating function of e-pilot, and promising radar with a phased antenna array. This significantly reduces the load on the pilot and allows you to concentrate on the implementation of tactical tasks. On-board equipment of a new aircraft enables the exchange of data in real time as a land-management systems, and within the aviation group.

The use of composite materials and innovative technology, aerodynamic design aircraft, measures to reduce the visibility of the engine provides unprecedented low level of radar, optical and infrared visibility. This allows you to significantly improve the combat effectiveness in the work, both by air and ground targets, at any time of day, in simple and adverse weather conditions.

"Today we started a program of flight tests of fifth generation fighter aircraft. This is a great success of Russia's science and engineering thought. For this achievement is worth more than a hundred co-operatives allied enterprises, our strategic partners. PAK FA program displays Russia's aircraft manufacturing and related industries on a qualitatively new technological level. These planes, along with modernized aviation system of the fourth generation will determine the potential of Russian military aircraft in the coming decades. The plans of the Company "Sukhoi" is included and further development of the Program PAK FA, on which we will work with Indian partners. I am confident that our joint project will surpass the Western counterparts by the criterion of cost-effectiveness and will not only strengthen the defensive power of the Air Force of Russia and India, but will take its place in the world market ", - said General Director of JSC" Sukhoi "Mikhail Pogosyan, Commenting on the start of flight testing.

Designed, yes. Produced?

US Teen series -- dated 70s designs with upgraded avionics.

F-22 -- USAF will be lucky to get a wing of them at last headcount.

F-35 -- sqrt(F-22) in some respects. A running production line and squadron service makes for a lovely
theoretical debate at this time. Same deal with the Eurofighter Typhoon and Rafale

Russian Mig 29 -- dead duck

Russian Su 27 -- dunno if Sukhoi plans to develop this any further, I mean the -34 and -35 were beautiful,
but really just upgrades. Whether anyone bought some for actual service, I don't know



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SO what does China have?

China doesn't seem to be focusing on their military so much as economic growth. They don't want to collapse under the weight (costs) of all their weapons the way the USSR did.

That and they just steal Russia's designs anyway.

Chief Petty Officer Klerk wrote:That and they just steal Russia's designs anyway.

Well everybody just steals Russian or American stuff. China does actually make its own designs, and their military does have a more un-Russian look.

J-8... thirty years to take a MiG21, stretch it, twist it, change it, (re)shape it
and upgrade the electronics, for little better specifcations... riiiiiight. I'm
sure they learned alot in the process



Regards

They make their own tanks, camouflage configurations, small arms, ships, and besides the obvious ones, their own fighters (this applies to tanks as well). Oh, and their own nukes. Saying that Chinese weapons are copies of Russian ones is like saying that European nations copied the USA.

If you're going to build the best, might as well learn from the best...



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