Bar opens at 8

Gauss_chan · Post by **Gauss_chan** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:59 pm

KiLlEr wrote:Gauss-Chan beszel nemetul?? lehet hogy o tud nemetul. De en nem. (baszod amerikai bilentyuk, angolonkivul nem lehet irni)

Lol, Ich spreche Deutsch, aber nur ein bisschen!

Hehe, nekem vannak ékezeteim, bibííí!

Tau:

I had this problem too.
There was a power failure so my servers restarted.
After it, the fileserver, connected to an APC began to behave strangely, but I imagine, you already know the symptoms.

At first I thought it was maybe a Microsoft update and I didn't even think that it was because of the APC software.
I only became suspicious when I noticed that the APC services couldn't start. And this only "Due to expiration of the Sun Java Runtime Environment certificate". Sigh.... Lets curse them together.

*follows Taus example, drinks one bottle vodka and passes out*

ZyreX · Post by **ZyreX** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:43 pm

TechRepublic wrote:APC Java issues cause services to hang
From APCs Knowledge Base #7202

Problem Summary

In order for PowerChute Business Edition to remain functional, users must upgrade to any version of 7.x. Due to expiration of the Sun Java Runtime Environment certificate, versions 6.x of PowerChute Business Edition will cease to operate normally as of July 27, 2005. Failure to upgrade will result in PowerChute Business Edition no longer providing monitoring and graceful shutdown of your system.

Actually, Its much worse than that. After 4 hrs. of trouble shooting, I finally identified the APC service as the reason many of my services had failed to start on bootup.

It seems that not only does

APC dropped the big one (3 of 7)
I cannot imagine the impact on servers around the world with this ridiculous certificate expiration and Power Chute Business 6.x.

On 8-2-05, We went through the normal process of installing server patches on just one server after testing the patches on lab servers. The server was rebooted and everything appeared normal, no event entries. The next day, we noticed that daily Symantec def file updates were not working properly. Then we tried to use services.msc and of course it locked up when we went to stop or start a service.

since there was no event entries at that time, we immediately suspected the 3 new patches. We tried unininstalling them and when that didnt fix the issue, we suspected perhaps a corrupt def file update from Symantec. We went through the time intense process of manually removing all of symantec server and antivirus registry and file removal. I then came in on Saturday and was confident that upon the reboot it would work. I even went as far as restoring the system state to a week prior to the problem. Not luck.

Fortunately, we came across a post on Sans.org dealing with the APC issue. This morning we booted into safe mode, disabled the apc services and everything else worked just fine.

They should have done a better job on both the back end Java part and in notifying customers of potential issues. I am ready to bring suit against APC for mental health and stress injury!!

APC Java OOPS !!! (4 of 7)
For almost a week our department has been trying to figure out what is causing all our server to stop responding when we tried to restart PC Anywhere. Fly here, rebuild this, fly there rebuild that..then APC sends out a notice that their past incompetence has caused this new problem. Never had a program that required me to via BIOS disable COM1 then unistall the program. Leave it to APC.

Thank you APC for creating such a flaw that your software works much like a Trojan with buffer over-flow and all. Have to even go and change some registry values to remove this garbage from our servers.

Well I can only say u guys werent the only ones...

Post by **Taurec** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:09 pm

Well I was already aware of this problem for about a month, APC did send a neat fat warning email and I uninstalled the 6.x management software from my machines..
BUT for some reason it didn't uninstall cleanly from one of my webservers, that one of course held our company website.

Sigh the software uninstalled without any problem from eight other machines ...
Anyway, I had to use knoppix to access the machine rename the service .exe and needed to manually remove it from the services list.

Oh well ...

*opens another bottle*

terran empire · Post by **terran empire** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:27 pm

BARKEEP I NEED BOOZE AND LOTS OF IT!!

The next time i get hit by a [spoiler]Jeep Cherokee[/spoiler] I am so going to hurt the driver.

Gauss_chan · Post by **Gauss_chan** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:27 pm

Taurec wrote: Anyway, I had to use knoppix to access the machine rename the service .exe and needed to manually remove it from the services list.

Hmm, looks like I was lucky. In my case it was enough to restart in safe mode, disable the services and upgrade the program.
Oh well, lets just forget about it.

Can I get a mug of green tea please?

RussianFox · Post by **RussianFox** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:09 am

[walks in the bar, sits at his usuall place, looks around for a mintue...]
Where the hell is everybody????

I WANT MY USUAL ON THE DOUBLE!!!!!

Dark-oneechan · Post by **Dark-oneechan** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:44 am

*Slams a huge mug on the bar.*

"Fill'er up..... Cat-girl juice thankies"

RussianFox · Post by **RussianFox** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:47 am

hm, well, cats are my second favorites after foxes....

[goes beind the bar and starts serving drinks, has to spend a few minutes to find where his special ingridients where stashed at]
sigh, Tau better be back soon...

terran empire · Post by **terran empire** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:29 am

Barkeep another round of the coroner special

Dark-oneechan · Post by **Dark-oneechan** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:34 am

*Oneechan drinks down the sweet nectar-eau-de-neko-bishoujo.*

"Mmmmm Tasties" ^^

HELLFIRE · Post by **HELLFIRE** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:22 am

...and I thought I've been having a bad time

Two exams I busted my butt for -- math & Networking. I get 100% on
Networking but I've no clue why my answers were all right. I get 99%
on math -- hell, I could've slept thru the whole d*n thing -- except for getting
nailed on not diagramming a right-angle triangle to prove a trig identity.
That's like being told to prove gravity exists before doing any physics...
or reassemble the periodic table before doing any chemical reactions

...then a quiz friday that I didn't study for that the prof actually put
questions where we had to read the chapter to answer...

...just shoot me please!

But gimme a drink first... especially to our returning members

Kashim · Post by **Kashim** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:16 am

o.O...

Liselle · Post by **Liselle** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:40 am

<Tom Jones impersonation>Maths, huh, good golly. What is good for? ABSOLUTELY NOTHIN'! </Tom Jones impersonation>

KiLlEr · Post by **KiLlEr** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:19 pm

I use math everyday at work. Some of them stock option pricing formulas are murder! O_O

Post by **Taurec** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:30 pm

Make me rich KiLler ...

Dear aussie people can you name a few online stores other than devoteddvd.

*serves orders*

FullMetal*Panic!

Bar opens at 8

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