New Weapons Forum Section- The Armory

Katyusha · Post by **Katyusha** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 3:19 pm

HELLFIRE wrote:Oh, current? Point out a link if you got one...

There's the BM-22, still in Red Army service.

StromCrow3000 · Post by **StromCrow3000** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 3:23 pm

They still call it the Red Army?

HELLFIRE · Post by **HELLFIRE** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 4:03 pm

@Taurec
That pic SOOOOO rings some bells... Soviet / Russian for sure,
a drone I'd guess?

Katyusha · Post by **Katyusha** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 4:30 pm

StromCrow3000 wrote:They still call it the Red Army?

No, but I do.

Post by **Taurec** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 5:52 pm

It's French, and it has a RamJet....

HELLFIRE · Post by **HELLFIRE** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 5:56 pm

Ramjet? Some research project or other?

Clue me in, I'm stumped....

Katyusha · Post by **Katyusha** » Tue Apr 29, 2003 5:53 am

Ramjet is a special engine. It sopposedly allows one to reach hyper-sonic speeds if it's powerful enough. I'll dig up all the tech specs later.

HELLFIRE · Post by **HELLFIRE** » Tue Apr 29, 2003 3:16 pm

Scratch that. I meant, 'clue me in on the photo.' A ramjet, if I remember
correctly is an engine that has no moving parts, compresses air via a
narrow air inlet / throat, yet is very efficient in the
supersonic / hypersonic speed regimes. The MiG-25 & SR-71 used
turbojets, but their engines operate more like ramjets @ speed.

dangman · Post by **dangman** » Fri May 02, 2003 3:18 pm

That is correct. The SR-71, when it needs to reach full speed, uses a ramjet to hit Mach 3+. Dunno about the MiG-25 though.

Post by **Taurec** » Fri May 02, 2003 6:39 pm

Jupz

the SR71 uses not a True RamJet .. You could say it's an Turbo"ramjet"

In a turboramjet engine a turbojet with afterburner is used to get to minimum ramjet speed and altitude.
The incoming air is then partially or completely bypassed around the turbine portion and ducted into the afterburner, only then it functions as a true ramjet. it's those cones i say ...

the Mig-25 .. just uses a insane enormous Turbojet .. <grin> ..

Fyi .. that pic was of the Leduc 022 France '56

Katyusha · Post by **Katyusha** » Sat May 03, 2003 3:41 am

You know the Russians. They are REAL believers in the "Bigger is Better" philosophy. Overkill is abit of a tradition with them (even during the industrial age. Ever seen a 32 pounder Licorne?). Afterall, they built the AN-225.

HELLFIRE · Post by **HELLFIRE** » Sat May 03, 2003 4:05 am

@Katyusha
Actually, the US has it's share of 'bigger is better' grandiose dreams.
If you read Blind Man's Bluff, the story on the sunken Golf, they
originally wanted to develop minisubs to retrieve her, but ended up
with the monstrosity that is the Glomar Explorer; how many times has
she been used? Once?
And you have to give the Sovs credit for thinking unconventionally.
How many Sov weapons systems have no direct Western equivalent?

@Taurec
I'm sure the MiG-25 uses the turbo-ramjet as well. One book I have
describes the engine as having a single shaft carrying 5 compressor
stages driven by a single turbine, which at speeds above Mach 2, the
intake adds to the compression, making it operate like a ramjet.

Katyusha · Post by **Katyusha** » Sat May 03, 2003 4:39 am

True, Glomar Explorer *IS* one helluva monster, but at least they didn't bother building a plane that could carry over 1 million pounds of cargo.

HELLFIRE · Post by **HELLFIRE** » Sat May 03, 2003 4:55 am

That's the C-5A/B, isn't it?

dangman · Post by **dangman** » Sat May 03, 2003 9:29 pm

No the C-5A/B is named the Galaxy. The Glomar Explorer is a ship. I think its purpose has to do with something with underwater salvage, right?

BTW the Su-35, S-37 and Su-37 have no counterparts in the West. Just like to point that out.