FMP: A Dancing Very Merry Christmas Discussion *Spoilers*

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Hmm... maybe. But the way it's said doesn't sound right...

If it was indeed what the author meant as the official explaination for Harris' disappearance, why didn't they say, "The official explaination was, after being shocked by the "accidental shooting", he left alone on a boat. He then got lost, and his whereabouts remain unknown."

With all those pronouns used and lack of clarification, it seems like it'd be too easy to confuse the point if that's what they really meant.

Anyway, I guess if they mention him in the next novel anyone's who's already read it would already know.

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They did play off what happened with Harris, and Sailor wanted to refute it, but they threatened him by saying they'd promote him from the job he loves as a submarine Captain, so he just stayed quiet.

That's all that meant ^^

Also, think about it- if the government is hushing up Sailor's story about Harris being the bad guy and the terrorists being the good guys, doesn't that tell you that someone (maybe Mithril, maybe Amalgam) has some influence there?
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Weltall Elite wrote:Hmm... maybe. But the way it's said doesn't sound right...

If it was indeed what the author meant as the official explaination for Harris' disappearance, why didn't they say, "The official explaination was, after being shocked by the "accidental shooting", he left alone on a boat. He then got lost, and his whereabouts remain unknown."

With all those pronouns used and lack of clarification, it seems like it'd be too easy to confuse the point if that's what they really meant.

Anyway, I guess if they mention him in the next novel anyone's who's already read it would already know.
Don't forget that's it's being translated from Japanese...

Anywaysm Geshron, do you have that pic of Kaname suited up? I can't find it on Jae's galleries - most of them are down.
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Weltall Elite wrote:Hmm... maybe. But the way it's said doesn't sound right...

If it was indeed what the author meant as the official explaination for Harris' disappearance, why didn't they say, "The official explaination was, after being shocked by the "accidental shooting", he left alone on a boat. He then got lost, and his whereabouts remain unknown."

With all those pronouns used and lack of clarification, it seems like it'd be too easy to confuse the point if that's what they really meant.

Anyway, I guess if they mention him in the next novel anyone's who's already read it would already know.
Don't forget that's it's being translated from Japanese...

Anywaysm Geshron, do you have that pic of Kaname suited up? I can't find it on Jae's galleries - most of them are down.
Oooh...I get what you mean now...umm, that part was talking about Harris being the one who was shocked about the shooting and taking off in the lifeboat, and that his whereabouts are unknown (IE cover-up).
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Yeah...Sela is in his sub...end of story lol :-P

Anyway, one thing I didn't like about this story was how they keep mentioning christmas as a 'time of unusual events' - if this rescue mission was so unusual in the first place, this shouldn't have been how it played out, IMO :-P

The actual story was somewhat believable though, so I think Sousuke should've just gone like 'I ain't gonna let her be taken' away on neither christmas day, _nor_ her birthday' and then sped off to do the rescue...maybe afterwards, al could've gone like 'My pilot and I would like to wish you a happy dancing merry christmas, madam captain' or something...

IMO, that would've been way more stylish than 'I calculated that the chance of accomplishing a mission like this is 256 to 1, but then, this _is_ chirstmas'... - but yeah, maybe that's just me.

There were some other things that bugged me, like how Kaname thought 'Sousuke must've taken care of that torpedo' and how Harris suddenly had a personal grudge against sousuke (how did he even know sousukes name?) - and don't tell me he was _that_ pissed off about mao shooting a rubber bullet in the back of his kneecap...
It just seemed unreasonable to let these persons do personal refferences at these points.

Finally, even though I liked Sousuke giving Kaname that gem (could someone figure out how rare such a gem is?), I didn't like him chickening out. I thought that was out of character, particularly considering he almost didn't hesitate when Tessa asked him. In my mind, Sousuke's supposed to be badass and naive towards other people(like he was with Tessa), not softy (Like he was with Kaname).
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But the difference is that he IS that way with Kaname and no one else...that's his relationship with her. If he could be as frank with her as he could with Tessa, then Kaname wouldn't be so special to him.
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But even so, formerly he wasn't actually aware that he had a crush on her...so it was natural that he felt uncomfortable an unable to pinpoint why, he was so terribly naive even when it came to his own feelings that he wasn't aware... Now, he's finally realized it, so things are different. He's even had 10 minutes to prepare telling her. He's always been straight with her to the best of his ability, never hid anything (quite contrary to how Kaname is with him), but now, suddenly, he is.

Although... After pondering it some more, it's actually _somewhat_ believable that this marks a final character change, completing the transition he's been going through since 'the end of day by day life'... Even so, I don't like the way it's done, but eh.
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Well... Sousuke IS a teenaged boy. And he's never been in love before. So how he deals with it is going to be new and confusing to him. He's experiencing feelings he'd never known before. He has no way of knowing how confessing them could affect his relationship with her or his life. I don't see change coming any easier for Sousuke than I do for Kaname.

As of right now, they've both tried to say how they felt, and they both failed. Hopefully next time they'll get it right.

Of course, we technically don't know what Sousuke's epiphany really was. We only assume he discovered that he was in love with her. I can already see how this is going to play out.
The time had finally come. Sousuke would confess the feelings he'd held deep in his heart for so long. All along, it'd been so obvious. How could he have been such a fool not to have seen it? Every moment they spent together. Every time he saw her. It had been right there before his eyes.

Of course, everyone else had noticed it long ago. How could they not? He'd been the last one to figure it out. He'd tried to tell her before, but he couldn't bring the words out. They'd stuck in his throat. He'd been afraid of how she'd react. What she'd think of him. What this revelation would mean for their relationship.

But no more. He was a mercenary. There was no telling when he'd be called away and killed on some mission. Then he'd never have another chance to tell her the secret he needed her to know. He could be dead next week and she would never know how he truly felt. It was time...

"Chidori... I have something I need to tell you."

Kaname tensed at the sound in his voice. "Y-yes?"

"Chidori, I..." He hesitated for a long moment. Kaname felt her heart pounding in her chest. She held her breath as she waited for the words she'd longed to hear from him. "I..." Sweat began to pour down his face.

"What is it, Sousuke? You can tell me," she soothingly encouraged him as she gently took his hand in hers.

"I... I don't think those pink shoes you always wear match your school uniform," he finally confessed.

"..."

"Um... I just wanted you to know that."

"..."

"I mean... they... they really clash. I'm thinking blue or maybe... white?"

"..."

"...So..."

"AAARRRGHHH!!!!"

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grrr
i was soooo disapointed with the ending :( :(
i mean, that from what i have heard i thout that will have the end i waited
for.

ok nice think that they realised their feelings but when the writer will give an end to that matter????? (whatever will be)
how many novels will make??

overall i liked the dvmc and as i have heard the next novel is still open.
will anyone knows when the next novel after como will publised???

last i ahave a pic from the como that sasuke holds kaname hand in the street anyone knows anything about that

p.s. i know my english su*** so pls don't yell my about it
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IRT Weltall


He has no way of knowing how confessing them could affect his relationship with her or his life

But that’s just it! – when in this series has Sousuke shown the least bit of social foresight?..

Like I said, after pondering it some more, I can accept that he’s not as much of a brickhead as he was in the beginning, but I’d still have done it differently, cause right now, he seems like a coward :-P

Oh, and btw, I liked your little script...I didn't see the shoe-thing comming :)
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AEmer wrote:But that’s just it! – when in this series has Sousuke shown the least bit of social foresight?..

Like I said, after pondering it some more, I can accept that he’s not as much of a brickhead as he was in the beginning, but I’d still have done it differently, cause right now, he seems like a coward :-P
Well, he IS a coward. In terms of her, anyway. Remember the whole mess with the last book centered around that fact. He couldn't bring himself to tell Kaname about his orders to leave her, so he abandoned her without so much as a goodbye. Then Kaname called him on it, saying that he was a coward and that's why he couldn't tell her. And it took him until the very end of the novel to decide where he wanted to be and to protest his orders.

He's slowly learning to live, but it has to be one step at a time.

And for those who felt that the lack of detail towards the end caused it to fall somewhat flat, perhaps some visual aid. This is from Jae's gallery.

Sousuke giving Kaname the gem:
http://fmp.abstratica.org/images/mags/d ... -03-16.jpg

Dang that thing is small. Oh well. Kaname's a very sentimental girl.

And Sousuke telling Kaname that he has something to tell her when he gets back, before he rushes off on his noble steed to save the day:
http://fmp.abstratica.org/images/mags/d ... -02-05.jpg

Most of you have seen this stuff, but for those who haven't, it's coolness. There's a few other images there that didn't appear in the novel itself. Hmm. I wonder how that works. :?

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Hah...jeez...that was the other part of what I've read recently I didn't like, so maybe my mind decided not to remember it as clearly...it could be that I've developed a 'Sousuke must not seem weak' complex or something along the way lol, cause it seems I've been going with that rather than a more objective analysis...thanks for proving me wrong :-P

Anyway, do you have a link to an index of that gallery?
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Weltall Elite wrote:There's a few other images there that didn't appear in the novel itself. Hmm. I wonder how that works. :?
Each chapter is published in the magazine, each with anywhere from 3 to maybe even 6 illustrations + 1 title illustration. Most of them don't end up in the novel...so most of them get 'lost' (perhaps some show up later in artbooks and promotional work).
However I noticed a nice thing in the most recent book- they included all of the chapter title illustrations in the very back. :)

---- added- the new gallery is here. There is a link to this from the old image gallery at the my site, however it seems I unintentionally hid it :twisted:
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AEmer wrote:thanks for proving me wrong :-P
Don't feel bad. I am the best there is for a reason, after all. ;)

:p
Anyway, do you have a link to an index of that gallery?
http://fmp.abstratica.org/gallery.html

The extra images for the novels that I pulled up are in the Dragon Magazine section.

EDIT: Seems Jae beat me to it, though. :oops:

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:-o
Is that the girls dressed up in...bonta-kun underwear?

That gallery is...well...I think it'll be a past-time of mine of the next few days. Thanks go to Jae from here :-)

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Ah, heheh, being proven wrong and accepting it means that you learn something you weren't aware of before, doesn't it?...,
While some people might be under the impression that being proven wrong means you 'lose' an arguement or discussion, I consider it a small victory over myself..

- so don't get up on a high horse, it doesn't take the best to prove me wrong, it only takes being right :-p ...aand sometimes, it might take a little patience too ;-)
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