Tsudou Make My Day (TMMD) New Novel/Dragon Mag *Spoilers*

[ricerocket]

well, lemme make a few corrections:

leonard gave kaname his gun and 30 seconds to escape to see sousuke if she could shoot and kill him (he took off his coat) and she failed, but when he is going to take back the gun she misfires (in the face too XDDD)

they didn't get "captured" by kalinin, they were going to escape together in a helicopter because mr. gold's part of amalgam is attacking their mansion with 3 behemoth, 3 venem and bunch others kinda like how they invaded mithril bases, for reasons unknown, kalinin just found him wounded and kaname besides him (she couldn't run cuz she's shocked that she shot and "maybe" killed him)

like i said in a previous post, kalinin saw leonard getting shot by kaname and showed really briefly sadness that seemed to indicate there's more to leonard's role than the end game boss, like he doesn't deserve to be shot especially not by kaname... but that could just be my own impression

oh and mao, webber and kruz didn't kick any ass, they got their asses handed to them... real badly XD

there's no new amalgam AS, it's an upgraded version of venom, and the girl pilot is not a maid (lol) but that lady that's been managing the mansion for leonard

but all those above is NOTHING compared to the reunion scene at the end of the chapter, you've really gotta read it to feel how blood pumping it is, really can't wait for the next chapter with sousuke + AL vs. mr. gold's whole quatron (sousuke: let's wipe em out in 3 minutes; AL: 3 minutes is impossible, how about 4 minutes 12 seconds?) XD

[Taurec]

I knew she couldn't resist Leonard ....
Now if only Sousuke would take her intentions wrong Leo could be home free taken care of naughty nurse Kaname

[ricerocket]

My impressions of what's happening:

1) It's mentioned, I believe, that Bunny was the LD-AS genius of Mithril. It's also mentioned that the Lambda Driver in Arbalest is incomlpete and inferior to the Lambda Driver in the Codarl and Codarl-M. Mithril's M9Ds were built with the intention of being R&D testbeds for the Arbalest, as well as being capable of mounting Lambda Drivers should more Lambda Drivers be built.

2) IIRC, at the end of BOMF, Hunter and Wraith met, Wraith with the hard drive carrying Al, and Hunter with the ARX-8. Also, regarding Whispereds: in DVMC, it's stated that each Whispered's knowledge is highly specialised. Leonard's is to Arm Slaves, Tessa's is to submarines. No two Whispereds will share the same knowledge.

3) Earlier on in TMMD, Kalinin shows Leonard what appears to be the wreckage of an ARX-8, and Leonard is unimpressed, stating that they're still using the M9 frame (the Arbalest is based off the M9 frame, which is why it's compatible with all M9 weapons).

4) Judging from what I undertand, the ARX-8 was completed by a Mithril spilnter group. The other reason? Amalgram found it in its unfinished state, and finished building it, because it's good to have variety in your forces, and because there appears to be implications that the ARX-8 would be a step up in Arm Slave warfare, above the Arbalest (possibly, it's a challenger to the Belial).

about "no two whispered will share the same knowledge"... hmm... so do you think nobody in amalgam knows anything about the LD, and bunny developed it for them? XD

it's not true, in the special story about the beginning of mithril it's somewhat indicated that both leonard and tessa had incredibly advanced knowledge in electromagnetic fields and therefore developed the ECS together (which ended up on an A-bomb)... i think whispered do share certain common knowledge but one could know more about something than another, which explains why ARX-7's LD is NOT perfect because bunny is NOT specialised in LD, and also why kaname knows a lot about LD too

by the way, tessa didn't build donnan from ground up, she just developed the new engine using her electromagnetic fields knowledge to make her faster and quieter, which technology is not limited to submarines

also, leonard didn't really say why he doesn't like the frames of ARX-8, he just ordered it destroyed... so they didn't really "finished build it"

[Taurec]

about "no two whispered will share the same knowledge"... hmm... so do you think nobody in amalgam knows anything about the LD, and bunny developed it for them? XD

To a certain extend yes ... and no afaik Mr. Silver is the one who does all the AS talk with Amalgams boys in the back room.

[T.V.]

How 'bout yes and yes.

Bunny got 'transfered' to Amalgam's LD project before he managed to complete the then secret ARX-7.
Maybe Kalanin is now aware of this, and perhaps that has been partly the reason why he temporarely 'sided' with Almagam.

I find this increasingly likely.

Althoug I was wrong about Kalinin shooting Leonard, his actions afterwards reconfirm my suspicion he's been playing a deep cover agent all along.
And I still think he's been instrumental in the completion of the ARX-8, secretly (and perhaps without them knowing it) providing assistance to Hunter and Wraith along the way.

*retracts $100 bet on Kalinin shooting Leo, and puts it with another $100 on Kalanin coming through for Mithril/Sousuke/Chidory/Testarossa family in the end*

Leonard on the otherhand, reestablished himself, through his not too intelligent actions, as the tragic anti-hero he seemed to be in his first anime appearance.

This is becoming too predictable though.
Initially Sousuke isn't ready to commit his heart, yet Kaname (reluctantly) is.
Now, Sousuke has committed his heart to Chidori and NOW she starts to waver...

As for mr. Gold, he saw through Leonard's emotional attachment to Chidori and regarded it a liability.
Leonard -> Chidori -> Mithril/Tessa.
One which he determined needed to take care off. Thouroughly.
While he may have foresaw Mithril remnants pulling through, he counted outside a living Sousuke and the revamped ARX-8.

[Wild Goose]

DVMC does state that each Whispered's knowledge is highly specialized. With regards to Arm Slaves... think of it as having different design philosophies. Look at the M9 and ARX-7, and compare them to the Zy-98, Codarl, Venom, hell, the Belial. You can see the different design phiosophies at work.

Leonard's style is more towards the flamboyant asskicker AS, while Bunny's style seems more to have been a more down-to-earth AS (question: did he or did he not create the M9?)

It's sorta like how the different aricraft manufacturers have their own specialties - they all make planes, but different kinds of planes.

Kalinin's actions to lend more credence to the theory that he's a Mithril deep cover agent, and who knows? Maybe it's like Casino Royale: he's helped bring Leonard to a situation where the only safe haven for him is Tuatha de Danaan.

ALso: when I mentioned that Tessa's genius was to submarines, I was referring not only to submarine design and construction, but also submarine warfare - Mardukas, an accomlpished master of submarine warfare and both graduate and Teacher of the Royal Navy's Perisher Course, remarks that Tessa would have acted as he did. (Note: Perisher is the Top Gun of submarine warfare. If you don't pass Perisher, you can't drive a sub.) Also, while the TDD-1 was based off a failed Soviet design, it was still Tessa who made the whole thing work, who stamped her mark on it: she took the Soviet foundations and made TDD-1 into her own design.

And I just had to quote this:

<Should we try to have some fun right now?>
"Good enough. Finish in 3 minutes."
<It's impossible. How about 4 minutes and 12 seconds?>
"Shut up. LET'S GO!"
<Roger, Sergeant.>

[ricerocket]

man, read "birth of TDD" again and see for yourself why mardukas respects tessa as his superior: it's NOT because of her warfare smarts

and bunny didn't build the M9s, he just built the LD and programmed AL

also, the only real differences between the venom series and the M9 series are with/without LD and their appearances (it's talked about somewhere in BOMF) and the only real difference between this generation AS's and the last generation ones like in the u.s. military is this generation's AS's has electronic mustles (not mentioned whether that is a kind of black technology like the ECS and the LD) or something of that sort to enable greater power/mobility... by the way, the u.s. military also has M9s on testing stage

[Wild Goose]

I haven't read "Birth of the TDD". Perhaps you would be so kind as to give me the goddamned translation, seeing as how you're fudgie uber to be able to read either Japanese or Chinese.

Aha, the M9 wasn't designed by him. *notes*

From what ODBD suggested, as well as other stuff I've picked up, and third generation AS has the following charecteristic: an AI (no matter how limited), electroactive polymer "muscles", a palladium reactor, and ECS.

And yes, it's indicated in COMO that the XM9 is currenttly under OPEVAL with the US Army. No indication if the Marines will be using it at any point soon...

Also, something that occured to me: Sousuke pwns a Venom in an M6A3 Dark Bushnell, right? That must mean his skills are on a level higher than that of US Spec Ops pilots the Dark Bushnell pilots in FMP got slaughtered by Gauron's Venom. Then again, it was Gauron they were dealing with, afterall.

[ricerocket]

i like doing discussions... hate translating... XD

well cuz my vocabulary is rather lacking... especially compared to how great brandi did on day by day... not gonna embarasse myself on an attempt XD

although i did do a plot summary on it (a crappy one) somewhere in this thread, you could try to find it... and although not explicitly stated, you could see mardukas began and maintained his respect for tessa mostly because of her incredible personality and scientific intelligence... doesn't mean that tessa doesn't have warfare smarts, just that it's not where she earned mardukas' loyalty from, because it IS explicitly stated that the admiral assigned mardukas to tessa as battle strategy consult to compliment her lack in knowledge of tactics and battle experience

and yah can't believe i forgot about the ECS XD but the AI and power source weren't nearly as significant improvements as the "muscles" or the ECS

sousuke didn't really "pwn" the venom lol, he barely won... and that's because he's supposed to be one of the world's best AS pilot in the FMP universe and that he has incredible amount of experience fighting venoms so he knows their weaknesses... plus he had help from mao and webber helping him draw the venom's attention with its LD focus direction and attacked from behind XDDD

the segment that really showed his skill was in BOMF where he beat a M9 piloted by an ex-mithril SRT with a fixed up savage one on one

[Pyrite]

...I can't find the translation for "Birth of the TDD-1" on the blog, so I can't help you there. (And pardon me if I exercised a little poetic license in my overview - the actual facts are in the Animesuki link provided. )

[Taurec]

well cuz my vocabulary is rather lacking... especially compared to how great brandi did on day by day... not gonna embarasse myself on an attempt

Thats too bad You seem to be able to do a better job than google translation.

[Pyrite]

Don't know if anyone gives much of a damn anymore, but some translation would be appreciated. Yep, off Gatou's blog, right from the horse's mouth. (Credit goes to HunterSeeker for the original post on Animesuki, as always.)

http://www.gatoh.com/weblog/

The post contains some information on the creation of the ARX-8, including some names that appeared as previous options:
Arquebus (primitive rifle)
Flamberge (you know this - wavy-bladed broadsword or something)
Super Arbalest (...)
DaiSousuke (...Sagara Sousuke, The Shotgun that Blasts Evil?)
King Sagara (...)

...All of a sudden, I fear for the future of FMP.

[Ryuji]

King Sagara ?


Lol!!!

[Moonshadow]

I seriously hope those last few were a joke . . . But he is a fan of Gunadm . . . so you never know. SuperArbalest is not entirely impossible.

[GeneralGM]

new info on MMD10
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=33290
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