FMP Ripped off NGE? Theory and Others
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FMP Ripped off NGE? Theory and Others
This is a topic about exactly what the title says: an observation on FMP's strange similarity to NGE. For those of you who do not know what NGE is, do not read this topic, or, go find Neon Genesis Evangelion and watch it, as it kicked ass.
Here is a list of similarities:
1. The characters. Although Shinji and Sousuke, are, obviously, quite different, their situations are somewhat similar and many supporting characters, such as Asuka and Chidori, Misato and Mao, Kurz and Kaji, Shinji (the FMP one) and the NGE military nerd, are remarkably similar and it is hard not to believe that NGE influenced the FMP creators greatly.
2. Military complexes with huge amounts of funding to run mechas. Not much to say here.
3. The "light plot-to-serious plot" phenomenon is present in both series. In FMP, it starts out with Mithirl kicking ass for the first 24 episodes and then going on to Sousuke's and Chidori's personal issues and Mithril almost getting it's own ass kicked before kicking ass.
In NGE, it starts out with Angel after Angel getting pwned, as each one gets harder to kill the characters sink into their psyches and the whole ordeal becomes a surreal mindtrip full of Judeo-Christian undertones, which finally ends as a huge battle where NERV loses and Shinji figures out what he's worth or something really complicated like that and saves the world from collectivism.
Also, with the FMP novels going farther and farther down the plot device of the Whispered, it seems to be turning out like NGE.
4. Pilot/Mecha interface and the Lambda Driver and AT Field. Again, not much to say about an energy field/weapon used by mechas and powered by the pilot's concentration. Also: the Evas are living creatures that synchronize with their pilots and the FMP mechs having AIs that do something similar (ARX-7).
5. The FMP control room and the NERV control room. In one episode in TSR, there was a control room that looked almost exactly like the NGE one with the lights turned off.
6. Is that it? I can't think of much else at the moment.
So basically, FMP is heavily ripped off of NGE. However it is still awesome, and in some respects much better than NGE.
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Now, while watching TSR again with my cousin (who I have successfully brainwashed into thinking that FMP is great ), I came up with another idea.
You know the whore in Hong Kong who looked exactly like Kaname except more sleazy? She was Kaname, but in disguise, perhaps bolstered by her success in Fumofu that we saw earlier. And, in order to strengthen the act, she even learned some Cantonese phrases. Her being Chidori explains why she speaks perfect Japanese, acts similar, and got mad when Sousuke failed to do her. After her initial plan to get laid failed, she went to Plan B to confront sousuke directly and "leap into his arms." This, too, had limited success.
Ah... Interpretations, interpretations.
Anybody agree with my proposals? It's okay if you don't, I was just throwing out my observations and the second one wasn't even serious.
Here is a list of similarities:
1. The characters. Although Shinji and Sousuke, are, obviously, quite different, their situations are somewhat similar and many supporting characters, such as Asuka and Chidori, Misato and Mao, Kurz and Kaji, Shinji (the FMP one) and the NGE military nerd, are remarkably similar and it is hard not to believe that NGE influenced the FMP creators greatly.
2. Military complexes with huge amounts of funding to run mechas. Not much to say here.
3. The "light plot-to-serious plot" phenomenon is present in both series. In FMP, it starts out with Mithirl kicking ass for the first 24 episodes and then going on to Sousuke's and Chidori's personal issues and Mithril almost getting it's own ass kicked before kicking ass.
In NGE, it starts out with Angel after Angel getting pwned, as each one gets harder to kill the characters sink into their psyches and the whole ordeal becomes a surreal mindtrip full of Judeo-Christian undertones, which finally ends as a huge battle where NERV loses and Shinji figures out what he's worth or something really complicated like that and saves the world from collectivism.
Also, with the FMP novels going farther and farther down the plot device of the Whispered, it seems to be turning out like NGE.
4. Pilot/Mecha interface and the Lambda Driver and AT Field. Again, not much to say about an energy field/weapon used by mechas and powered by the pilot's concentration. Also: the Evas are living creatures that synchronize with their pilots and the FMP mechs having AIs that do something similar (ARX-7).
5. The FMP control room and the NERV control room. In one episode in TSR, there was a control room that looked almost exactly like the NGE one with the lights turned off.
6. Is that it? I can't think of much else at the moment.
So basically, FMP is heavily ripped off of NGE. However it is still awesome, and in some respects much better than NGE.
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Now, while watching TSR again with my cousin (who I have successfully brainwashed into thinking that FMP is great ), I came up with another idea.
You know the whore in Hong Kong who looked exactly like Kaname except more sleazy? She was Kaname, but in disguise, perhaps bolstered by her success in Fumofu that we saw earlier. And, in order to strengthen the act, she even learned some Cantonese phrases. Her being Chidori explains why she speaks perfect Japanese, acts similar, and got mad when Sousuke failed to do her. After her initial plan to get laid failed, she went to Plan B to confront sousuke directly and "leap into his arms." This, too, had limited success.
Ah... Interpretations, interpretations.
Anybody agree with my proposals? It's okay if you don't, I was just throwing out my observations and the second one wasn't even serious.
Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say that FMP ripped off of NGE (yes, I did see the series) - of course they might have been inspired. But than again - which ANY anime series is original, different than any other? And it doesn't have to be mecha series to have a clumsy-yet-powerful boy and raging-but-cure heroine. In this market it's really hard to come up with something new, honestly. Think about any Gundam series - every single title from Gundam has huge mechas (duh xD), cockpit with whole crew and some specific Gundams also have some kind of weird systems which let the pilot merge with the mecha. So, there you go.
But I must say I'm impressed with how many things you managed to notice. Good job! ^^
P.S. I just noticed your adden(?) interpretation - now, she was NOT Kaname xD We could see more than well that the woman spoke Cantonese fluently and she planned to get laid with one soldier or another Sousuke ;> She just looked very similar and after honest talk, she inspired Sousuke to action ;-) Nothing happens without meaning, y'know? ^^
But I must say I'm impressed with how many things you managed to notice. Good job! ^^
P.S. I just noticed your adden(?) interpretation - now, she was NOT Kaname xD We could see more than well that the woman spoke Cantonese fluently and she planned to get laid with one soldier or another Sousuke ;> She just looked very similar and after honest talk, she inspired Sousuke to action ;-) Nothing happens without meaning, y'know? ^^
Indeed. Actually I found the EoE being very helpful to many question which were arised by the series and never answered. And we got to knew what happened after the catastrophe ;>Illsteir wrote:Ummm... Are you referring to the series ending or EoE?
I have to agree with the series ending being shit and all but EoE wraped up the series quite perfectly.
But going back to the topic: NGE series inspired many next series. And as I said that I'm really impressed by how many similarities you have noticed, I still think that FMP and NGE are pretty different.
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What did you expect? NGE stands for No Goodo Endo
Unfortunatly I can see FMP ending in the worst way possible as well. (>_<)
Unfortunatly I can see FMP ending in the worst way possible as well. (>_<)
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Remember we have a faction trying to ctrl-alt-del the world to get rid of black technology? If that happens the ramifications are that S&K would have never met. Not only that, they would be completely different people because:
- their character development was based around the fact that black tech existed.
- people that died may not have, because their deaths were related to black tech.
Everything that was directly or indirectly influenced by black tech would not have existed. Therefore, the story line would basically disappear.
Its like "Who shot JR" story arc in Dynasty. How did they bring him back? "OH, BTW, he was never really shot. it was all a dream"
Yes, the proverbial wagging of the author's middle finger at the audience.
Since I've seen too many anime ended in this manner (e.g. Magikano) I have a bad feeling about this.
Remember we have a faction trying to ctrl-alt-del the world to get rid of black technology? If that happens the ramifications are that S&K would have never met. Not only that, they would be completely different people because:
- their character development was based around the fact that black tech existed.
- people that died may not have, because their deaths were related to black tech.
Everything that was directly or indirectly influenced by black tech would not have existed. Therefore, the story line would basically disappear.
Its like "Who shot JR" story arc in Dynasty. How did they bring him back? "OH, BTW, he was never really shot. it was all a dream"
Yes, the proverbial wagging of the author's middle finger at the audience.
Since I've seen too many anime ended in this manner (e.g. Magikano) I have a bad feeling about this.
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ya im referrin to the original ending...when i heard they were releasing a sort of ending do-over i couldnt wait to get hold of it, but then for some reason i totally forgot.Illsteir wrote:Ummm... Are you referring to the series ending or EoE?elniro wrote:NOPE!
I think FMP is superior in every single way and so far it doesnt have a totally shitbag ending like NGE[/b]
I have to agree with the series ending being shit and all but EoE wraped up the series quite perfectly.
I guess if i can find it cheap on DVD i might as well get hold of it
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English VAs? Cuz Misato was voiced by Kotono Mitsuishi (Sailor Moon, Excel Saga, Ebichu, et al) while Mao was done by Michiko Neya (Miss Deep, Riza Hawkeye, among others)LeoXiao wrote:Misato and Mao had the same voice actress.
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