AEmer wrote:If it's not the same artist, and it's got a new name...I see no reason that it should focus more upon the original manga than upon the original novels.
I think it's given, though, that episodes already done in the original manga won't repeat themselves in this one. But other than that, I recon the new manga won't try to uphold any legacies.
I think any artist getting into such a project would want to do his own character research and concepts, and then utilize the style, character concepts and story structure that he/she believes to be best. IOW, I think the new manga will take several artistic liberties, just like the old one did, while trying to stay as true to FMP!, both litterally and in spirit, as possible.
A relaxed approach like that won't be able to fail, whereas if it tried to copy the former manga, it might be dissapointing when it came to the inevitable differenses. That's a lot like how the characters look very different in the original manga compared to the characters on the original shiki art... Hopefully the results will be great ^_^
Well, granted, the new creator is going to have to use his or her own vision (along with Gatou), and can't copy Tateo. But that's not what I'm talking about.
I mean the timeline. And unlike the first manga, this one, however you look at it, IS a sequel. And that means that they can't take QUITE as many liberties. Since they aren't recreating the story from the beginning, they'll have to adopt SOMEONE'S timeline from one of the other mediums. I suppose they could make up their own and expect the reader to fill in the gaps like Record of Lodoss War did, but I think it's sloppy to neglect some kind of continuity.
Well, I wonder what kind of continuity you're speaking of, more specifically. The novels themselves usually reintroduce every character in the beginning, and the introductions made in the first manga were relatively shallow...
The last manga was also very episodic in nature. There were a lot of goofy and short arcs, and there was little concern with details such as dates and so on. There were few strings drawn through the entire series, too. So that, I don't think is too much of a problem.
The main part of 'continuity' I can think of is for drawing long strings, and refferencing past events, right?, so the most important bit in the ODBD is how they're going to do Gauron...if there's no manga that has the Toybox overtake arc, how will they refference those events?
Sadly...I think they'll refference those things briefly, and leave it up to the reader to figure out the details...perhaps they'll do some 'official decleration', placing it, but I think that's all we'll get, if that...
Is it just me, or are there way too many talking decapitated heads around these days?
The main part of 'continuity' I can think of is for drawing long strings, and refferencing past events, right?, so the most important bit in the ODBD is how they're going to do Gauron...if there's no manga that has the Toybox overtake arc, how will they refference those events?
That's just because those volumes aren't out yet in the US. That arc will be taken care of in volumes 8 and 9.
Still, take the anime, for example. Fumoffu and TSR are going to be made by different people than the first season. Still it references to the first season from time to timeinstead of continuing off the novel or recreating it. I'm sure TSR will too.
Although a different animation house is doing TSR (No, not the makers of AD&D), it is still Gatou-san at the helm. Therefore, it will follow his story line (whatever that may be at this point. too bad the manga is no where near TSR storywise).
Since Gauron is necessary in terms of the story, then he has to be in it. Just like the 'paths of the dead' has to be in The Return of the King, even though the movie took a completely different set of events to get Aaragon there as compared to the novel. Such a significant event cannot be skipped over.
Yeah, that is precisely why the two situations aren't directly comparable - that season two of the anime has a different subtitle isn't really significant at all, nor that another studio is doing it - it's perfectly normal for some anime to be spread across different studios. Naruto would be an excellent example - there are huge differences in the way the studio's do things, one has excellent character designs, very cool and sharp backgrounds, and uses certain techniques, whereas another has much more fluid character designs, uses deformities, and has an extremely high framerate and more expressionistic backgrouns - you can also tell that the producers are different people.
I know it's a little different here since it's different seasons spread across different studios, but all the same, the anime has an overall continuity because it's considered one product by both producers and audience.
Now the various mangas, including that one targeted at a younger audience, are clearly different in that respect.
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Also I'm glad to hear that arc will be covered in volumes 8 and 9...very glad, even. Gives me all the more reason to look forward to them. Anyway, I'm still not entirely sure if you by continuity simply mean refferencing of past events based upon how they happened in a certain product (the old manga, for instance) ?
Is it just me, or are there way too many talking decapitated heads around these days?
By continuity I mean that certain events happened a certain way in the novel differently from how they were handled in the manga or anime. Further, there were some events in one medium that might not have happened in another. For instance, in the anime, there was no reference to Wraith, but in the manga there was. Now that he's going to become a major character, TSR is going to have to find a different way to work him in. Shouldn't be difficult, but they'll have to do something. In the final arc of the anime, there were several references to Sousuke's mission in the Middle East and how it had gone bad. That Middle East arc never happened in the manga or novel, so obviously it wouldn't have been referred to in those mediums.
I think the new manga is going to have to follow one of the other mediums, and therefore, refer to the events that happened in THAT storyline. The obvious choice would be the manga since that manga's plot is supposed to end right there the next one begins. That way the fans of the manga can pick right up where they left off without having to reference to other mediums they might not have been as interested in follow, and therefore risking losing a potential share of the their market. However, the problem with the timeline in the original novel might be a bit more than they can overcome without making some serious adaptations.
Frankly, I believe that Gatou and Teteo had no intention of continuing the manga beyond the first anime series and therefore had no problem stretching the timeline on into at least Christmas and the new year. Because, obviously, they wouldn't have to worry about screwing up the Christmas story arc or missing Kaname's birthday.
My guess is that any references made will probably go back to the original novel and from there the story will "branch" in that the manga creators will adapt the story as they see fit from there.
Well, I concur. They probably developed those arcs because it seemed like a good idea at the time.
I guess I see your point, when it comes to the introduction of the character wraith - but overall, he'll be very easy to work in, I think.
Don't you think they'll just introduce most characters anew, maybe doing small summaries or working it into the dialogue, rather than doing too many out-of-series refferences ? - I mean, refferencing Gaurons battle with Sousuke aboard the Tuatha de Danaan is out-of-series, but if all you need to know is summarized right there, it's not like it "has" to pick up a storyline; I presume you'll be able to read this new manga, for the most part, without having read the old manga, and maybe even without having seen the anime...
Just my thoughts.
Is it just me, or are there way too many talking decapitated heads around these days?
I presume you'll be able to read this new manga, for the most part, without having read the old manga, and maybe even without having seen the anime...
Of course. Although they (mangaka, publisher, etc, etc) certainly are aware of the strong fanbase FMP already has they (being business people) are always looking for new sources of income. It would be a really bad move business-wise to create a manga series where comprehension of the action required the reading of all the manga and the watching of all the anime that came before it. Big no-no. While it will certainly be terribly enjoyable for us, the loyal fans, as a continuation, it will definitely be welcoming to new fans as well. I have confidence that they will do a good job balancing the introduction of "new" stuff and the easing of FMP rookies into the swing of things. Share the FMP love, w00t.
It seems awfully early... unless it's somehow only covering like 3 chapters in 609 pages. Does it have stuff that hasn't been published yet, or is Dragon Age dropping it? Or is this just a slick, conniving way to ride TSR frenzy?
Sousuke in that pic from Sigma..... HAHAHA!!!!
The audience applauded, even though it was not clear what Bush meant.
Anyway, the newest volume of the original manga has apparently come out. It came out yesterday at Borders and when I went there last night, it was already sold out! >_<
I'm glad you're doing so well in this country, FMP. But you guys need to save me a copy!
It would be a really bad move business-wise to create a manga series where comprehension of the action required the reading of all the manga and the watching of all the anime that came before it. Big no-no. While it will certainly be terribly enjoyable for us, the loyal fans, as a continuation, it will definitely be welcoming to new fans as well. I have confidence that they will do a good job balancing the introduction of "new" stuff and the easing of FMP rookies into the swing of things. Share the FMP love, w00t.
