Tessa's Command

PookaKitten · Post by **PookaKitten** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:42 pm

I just realized why Tessa is in command of the TDD-1, in addition to her designing it. The sub has capabilities that require a Whispered to operate. They'd be shooting themselves in the leg if they didn't have a Whispered in command to use those capabilities when required. She's got Mardukas and Kalinin to fill the holes of her lack of experience and she relies on their expertise when it's needed.

Samantha

KashimArbalestAS · Post by **KashimArbalestAS** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:53 pm

Do you mean that all of the TDD-1's actions require a Whispered? I don't think they need a Whispered a lot, only in special circumstances since the Tuatha de Danaan does have a special room for a Whispered to take control of the ship and use it's Lamba Driver. Also, in the novel, [ecs]Admiral Borda tries to convince Tessa in retiring from the TDD-1 and handing the control over to Mardukas. Also, when Tessa was away on the Pacific Christmas, Mardukas took command and destroyed the 3 Leviathons. In the first manga when Tessa orders the missil strike, she just gave out the order, she didn't do anything but that.[/ecs]

PookaKitten · Post by **PookaKitten** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:38 pm

No a Whispered is not required, but why have the technology and not be able to use it? The fact a Whispered can control it and do what Kaname did at the end of the Toybox arc is part of what sets the TDD-1 apart from other subs. It'd be stupid to handicap it by not having a Whispered there to access those features. As to [ecs]the Admiral wanting Tessa to step down, he could have several reasons. 1. He's fond of her and wants her out of the line of fire. 2. Those Whispered things are rarely used. 3. They don't want her in harm's way because they would lose a Whispered of her caliber.[/ecs]

Samantha

KashimArbalestAS · Post by **KashimArbalestAS** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:15 pm

Yeah, a Whispered would bring out the full effectiveness of the TDD-1, except a captain such as Tessa, being a Whispered and the designer of the TDD-1, is a plus since she can use the Lamba Driver of the TDD-1, and she can also command the sub, though for experience she has Mardukas and Kalinin. ECS-[ecs]Yeah, Admiral Borda mentioned about where there could be dangerous scenarios, and then right after that he tries to persuade her to come back to Operations Headquarters or other jobs at the Department of Research. I meant that Admiral Borda wanted Mardukas to take control of the Tuatha de Danaan as a replacement of Tessa, not because Mardukas could handle the Tuatha de Danaan better.[/ecs]

Post by **Taurec** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:00 pm

Yeah, a Whispered would bring out the full effectiveness of the TDD-1

Euh, what does that mean ?

All we have seen is that orders don't have to be relayed but are being done via some kind of "thought" control. Making that "bath tub" nothing more than a advanced single user control hub.

Now if it was a fighter plane where a split second does count it would give a big advantage but for a submarine that size ??? I really don't see what the "huge" advantage would be.

Contrary to popular believes submarines can not turn on a dime and still have to obey the laws of hydrodynamics.

Nekosan · Post by **Nekosan** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:29 pm

I guess that this "bath tub" can be useful if the submarine is hi-jacked or if the systems are down or something simillar. It's true that the advantage in battle is very low.

Weltall Elite · Post by **Weltall Elite** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:38 pm

I wonder if it might be a security problem considering ANY Whispered can use it. Granted, it's under lock and key, but...

Nekosan · Post by **Nekosan** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:46 pm

Weltall Elite wrote:I wonder if it might be a security problem considering ANY Whispered can use it. Granted, it's under lock and key, but...

If i remember correctly there was a key..in Tessas' locker i think. (I need to watch the epis. again to refresh my memory)

Post by **Taurec** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:55 pm

Can't recall but there was only one key right ?? If so, this would be a major screwup.

Also if Tessa would flip there is no way of stopping her.

Weltall Elite · Post by **Weltall Elite** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:34 pm

Yeah, the key was in Tessa's safe and Tessa had the key to the safe. And most likely, there was only one key.

Nah, Tessa's not going to flip. With her athletic abilities, she would probably have trouble managing a barrel roll. :p

KashimArbalestAS · Post by **KashimArbalestAS** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:37 pm

The Tuatha de Danaan with a Whispered would be most efficacious because a Whispered can uncannily control and direct the Tuatha de Danaan's movements in ways that normal commanders won't be able to because of a situation as in not in control of the commands because someone has you at gun point, or through maneuvers that seem almost impossible as in raising a platform by will. I wasn't talking about the TDD-1 becoming a underwater high performance fighter, I meant something along the lines of when Kaname took over the ship by the Lamba Driver in the secluded room. She could make the Tuatha de Danaan leap out of the water by doing it herself through an imitation which would the make the TDD-1 do the same, or raise her hands to lift the platform containing the 2 fighting AS. There was also the part when there was an image of Kaname on the Tuatha de Danaan's deck. The TDD-1 having a means of connecting a Whispered individual to the sub in such a way, as in the Lamba Driver on board the vessel, wouldn't a weapon with a Lamba Driver loaded in it be most effective if there was a Whispered on board who could direct that awesome power?

Weltall Elite · Post by **Weltall Elite** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:50 pm

I don't think she was literally controlling the ship through movements of her body. We saw a nude image of her moving and the sub was doing the same, but the real Kaname was fully clothed in a glass container. She couldn't sit up, jump out of the water or do anything like that. Instead, I think it's more like her spirit becomes the sub's. Kind of like an astral projection of sorts. The images of Kaname lifting her hands and such were most likely just symbolic to show that it was actually her doing those things.

Or at least that's how I make logic of it.

Teletha Testarosa · Post by **Teletha Testarosa** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:56 pm

Erm you guys, She's a whispered she's a genius, she can calculate and determine what can be possible and what can't like in the first series when they went like right under that nuclear american sub.

KashimArbalestAS · Post by **KashimArbalestAS** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:06 pm

I think the Lamba Driver and her own Whispered powers somehow integrated the Whispered part or power of her into some unknown area, or realm that obviously doesn't exist in the material world. I thought she had direct control of the TDD-1 since it did everything the Whispered Kaname did, as in her movements. To indicate the TDD-1 parting the water at high speed, it showed Kaname's whole body more as if she was leaping out, like a whale. The result was all of the TDD-1 doing the same. Her whole body was the TDD-1. To indicate the platforms raising, she lifted her hands, cupping the hands together to probably indicate the platform itself, then her arms acted as the platform's propulsion thing that lifted it up to the Tuatha de Danaan's surface.

KiLlEr · Post by **KiLlEr** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:30 pm

Tessa is also tacticle genius (remember the 1st season episode where she showed Sousuke her plan when she fought with Mao, as well as this season when she paper and pened a strategy to get them out of the pinch?). A whispered is not required for the operation of the TDD. The reason it was necessary was because the operating system of the TDD had been taken over by Gauron and the only way to get control back was via a manual override which only a whispered can perform.