According to AoDVD poster: TSR in May

dr_haro · Post by **dr_haro** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:15 am

http://forums.animeondvd.com/showflat.p ... o=&fpart=1

Given the license hasn't even been announced yet, it's probably unlikely.

Also interesting to note is that a lot of people don't think ADV will license this (what with their financial woes and all), and think someone else (in this case, funi) will take it from them.

HELLFIRE · Post by **HELLFIRE** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:24 am

...till I see the DVD ON THE SHELF available for purchase, it's all
speculation to me

Regards

Jae · Post by **Jae** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:37 am

In the past, ADV wouldn't announce a street date until they have the volume mostly ready to duplicate.

Now for something that hasn't even had a license announcement yet??
Maybe ADV did get it, but laid off all their PR people <g>
And shoved TSR in the 'get it done NOW, we need the cash!' pile...

I find this interesting because if it's on the street date list at Suncoast, there likely was some sort of industry chatter or release about this. Unlikely random people at the manager level or better would know about a currently-Japan only release. (not saying managers aren't anime fans, but we're talking about people who make a living off of commercial releases)
Someone might have been wrong about sticking this on the list, but the fact that it showed up is interesting.
(if it did. people like to screw around with the craziest things)

dr_haro · Post by **dr_haro** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:18 pm

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"I find this interesting because if it's on the street date list at Suncoast, there likely was some sort of industry chatter or release about this."

I was thinking the same thing.

Also, given ADV's problems right now, it would be in their best interests to get a surefire money maker like this out ASAP.

If this is the case, it's certainly odd, as a licensing announcement would have stopped fansub circulation (ok, not really... but for the most part), something ADV attributes to their recent problems

Gin Ryo no Nari · Post by **Gin Ryo no Nari** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:40 pm

*grumble grumble grumble*
If they didn't take so long on getting it going, Fan Subs wouldn't have the opportunity to detract from their cash flow.
I read a "This is how long it takes a show to be produced in English" thread somewhere. I know it takes awhile to get liscensing, translations, word fit scripts, yadda yadda yadda. But geeeeeeeze!
Dedicated fans to the show are going to try to get their hands on the official stuff as soon as possible. They want it to keep going. And the information age has made people a bit more impatient for their "habits."
And with shows that appear to have a strong following in English speaking countries - such as Full Metal Panic (it sounds like novels have been doing fine as well as the anime) i would think that they would go ahead and start making licensing agreements as soon as they hear the Japanese fans are going crazy. I mean after all - If They liked the first, and obviously We all liked the first, there must be some thread of commonality that we all enjoy. Whether it's the A.S battles, the school comedy, Kaname beating up a man who if he were inclined could easily kill her (but instead he just stands there and takes it cause he's a sweetie) -Whoa, got long winded there, the Military and Scientific drama.
I don't know.

Maybe that kind of thinking is what got them into a financial hole, and I should just shut the hell up and wait to see it on the shelves.
I just wanna see TSR so bad!!!!!!!! I can't download it. I feel like I'm at the edge of the event horizon of an anime black hole. It's there, I know it is! It's just not getting out to me!!!!

dr_haro · Post by **dr_haro** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:49 pm

Actually, it was rampant licensing that put ADV into a hole. They went on an insane licensing rampage and got a few crap titles which they probably never saw profit for because... well, no one bought them.

Full Metal Panic! however, is not one of those franchises. As far as I know, FMP! has been one of their most successful franchises.

Weltall Elite · Post by **Weltall Elite** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:08 am

Take anything Suncoast says about release dates with a grain of salt. Especially when it comes to unlicensed anime.

dr_haro · Post by **dr_haro** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:13 am

More people on the thread are reporting their Suncoasts to say the same thing.

There's a possibility it may have been licensed for real.

The specific date is May 9th, BTW.

Weltall Elite · Post by **Weltall Elite** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:55 am

Their Suncoasts saying the same thing doesn't mean much. Suncoast has a release schedule that all their stores put out so of course they're all going to say the same thing. But since we haven't heard anything from anyone else, (especially from a company to license it) I'll remain skeptical.

dr_haro · Post by **dr_haro** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:00 am

Oh don't worry, I'm skeptical myself.

In fact, I (I go by Apollo on AnimeonDVD) made a thread on that forum about pessimism as to the series actually getting licensed. I felt that ADV in their condition simply couldn't afford it.

However, this is something. It may end up as nothing; but for the time being... it's something.

Weltall Elite · Post by **Weltall Elite** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:12 am

I like to think they base their information on something, but I don't know what.

Jae · Post by **Jae** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:15 am

I think we can really only guess at what ADV's money situation is, unless someone has some exact info. If they stop picking up titles, doesn't that pretty much suggests they're nearly kaput as a company? They still have their existing catalog and titles they still have to release, but, geh, how far could they go without having a shot at the new, fans-want-it-now stuff? They can't keep re-releasing Nadesico.

As for their problems- it wasn't just picking up too many anime titles, it starting the Anime Network, Newtype USA, and manga when they didn't have good access to the publishing/distro thing and against well established competitors (for manga). Also I sort of recall they announced a toy/plushie line which seems to have never gotten far off the ground, they had really expanded their facilities, and of course, last but not least is the LA EVA boondoggle. Ahh, too many pies, can't afford enough fingers. *sigh*

I'm sticking with - It's ultra-odd a japan-only title shows up at Suncoast. It's even more ultra-odd that (currently) it appears that only Suncoast is listing it. It's stinky but there must be some reason Suncoast even knows of it, and I think this thread is well saturated with the needed skepticism.

ladygemma · Post by **ladygemma** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:34 pm

I am really hoping that this is true, but Suncoast (which is closing a LOT of it's stores) is notorious for saying something is coming out and then not having it (EB is getting bad about that as well...i.e. freaking Twilight Princess...grumble).

I can try to ask Vic (va for Kurz, and of course Edward Elric) if he knows anything (which he should if it's in production). He might not be able to say though, but I'll try to email him later. (and before anyone asks me for his email address, you can find it on his website).

dr_haro · Post by **dr_haro** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:11 pm

^ He probably will not be allowed to tell you. AoDVD's webmaster knows about licenses that have yet to be announced, but he is not allowed to disclose them either.

Jae wrote:If they stop picking up titles, doesn't that pretty much suggests they're nearly kaput as a company?

Not neccessarily; in ADV's case, it just looks like they're being more careful about what they license.

In fact, ADV announced license acquisitions this past weekend at Comic Con. They've still got some steam in them.

ADV's not dead, but they're not as strong as they once were. It looks like they're being careful as to not end up worse than they are.

Also I sort of recall they announced a toy/plushie line which seems to have never gotten far off the ground

As far as I know, ADV's toy line was discountinued shortly after it's launch.

In any event, I'm with Jae on this. It's rather peculiar a retailer would have information about something that should not be known to American retailers at all.

Does this mean May 9th IS the date? Well, probably not. All of this is probably more of an idication of the title floating around somewhere in the US anime industry. Which, as I said, is not much... but is better than "TSR wait wut?!?!?!?" or "Stanely Kubrick made a sequel!?"

full_metal_sousuke · Post by **full_metal_sousuke** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:59 pm

i dont think they mean TSR series i think they mean the TSR OVA (the one with tessa)